North Korea Photos

Via Liberty Papers comes this set of pictures from North Korea (see the entire thread), one of the last remaining slave states in the world. As some in the thread mentioned, most people living there probably have no idea just how bad they have it because they know nothing of the outside world. Even after the communist system falls, how will the people adapt after so many years living under totalitarianism?






To continue the recent trend of going against the conventional wisdom, and because I love it when I get called a heretic, let me just add that the only reason Seoul, instead of looking like the above, looks like this...

...is the US military.

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I wonder if the

I wonder if the ridiculousness of an ideology is positively correlated with the size of its monuments.

"I wonder if the

"I wonder if the ridiculousness of an ideology is positively correlated with the size of its monuments."

Or perhaps negatively correlated with the size of an anatomical feature. :-P

i'm sure that statue is in

i'm sure that statue is in Ottawa. It shows Piere Trudeau leading us towards the 'light'.:dizzy:

“I wonder if the

“I wonder if the ridiculousness of an ideology is positively correlated with the size of its monuments.”

Interesting that you say that. That monstrous statue is somewhat disturbing to me- it seems almost calculated to make the viewer feel tiny and insignifigant.

South Korean gratitude.

South Korean gratitude.

I have met South Korean

I have met South Korean college age kids visiting the US. Their attitude horrified me. They were pro-North Korea, pro-socialist, and anti-US. That was in the early 90s. And today:

"the company's poll in January 2004 found that 39 percent of the respondents said the United States was the most threatening country to Korea and 33% named North Korea. At that time, only 7.6 percent of those surveyed counted Japan as most threatening. Among respondents in their 20s, 58% said the U.S. was the greatest threat; only 20% said North Korea was"

http://freekorea.blogspot.com/2001/08/ofk-archive-anti-americanism-in-korea.html

What is the point of saving people from doom if the result is that they hate your guts?

thats the sad unrealness.

thats the sad unrealness. "What is the point of saving people" the older i get the more i realize its virtually impossible to 'save' people from anything. saving them from what? its essentialy themselves. its does not matter if a ton of bricks fell on thier heads, some people will still join crypto-socialist nonsensical religions and beliefs and hope to 'save people'. socialism, scientology, futilitarianism et al...sadly wrestling with the python of reality.:smitten:

"What is the point of saving

"What is the point of saving people from doom if the result is that they hate your guts?"

Gar. "I got buddies who died face down in the mud..." It's GIGO man. What we need is a good diaspora.

"Even after the communist

"Even after the communist system falls, how will the people adapt after so many years living under totalitarianism?"

I recently saw reports from a south-korean institute that readapts north-koreans crossing the border to the real world. They have tremendous success. They showed some examples from the current "batch": one had, in just two months, started a restaurant business, another had started working in a hairdressing salon, and was aiming at starting her own affair, etc...

They also showed testimonies from north-korean fishers that had fled: they were incorporated to south korean fishing crews immediately, just like everyone else. Interestingly, the North Koreans said they knew all along that the South Koreans were richer and had an easier life, they had seen their ships at sea, and compared them with their own.

There just is something about owning the fruits of your own work, and deciding how to live your own life, that is universal to all mankind, and irrepressible.

There just is something

There just is something about owning the fruits of your own work, and deciding how to live your own life, that is universal to all mankind, and irrepressible.

People who take the risks of fleeing probably display this appreciation of freedom (and the ability to profit from it) disproportionately.

I don't mean to devalue what you say about the broad appeal of freedom; rather to point out the potential benefit to the free society that has an open immigration policy.

Shorter version of the

Shorter version of the article Constant posted:

"Those Asians should be grateful we used their country as a battleground for a Proxy War, since the other side of that war was slightly more destructive."

labyrus, Well, I was arguing

labyrus,

Well, I was arguing against the Korean war. Are you arguing for the Korean war? Or what? Do you have any clue what it is that you're trying to achieve with your comment?