This Thanksgiving, Let\'s Close The Borders

This letter to the editor appeared in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution on Wednesday, November 23, 2005.

Turn Mayflower around

As Thanksgiving nears, I've been thinking about some of the early immigrants who came to this country seeking a better life.

To my knowledge, the folks who landed at Plymouth Rock did not have permission to settle there from the majority Native American population that had existed for hundreds of years before the Mayflower arrived.

So, I assume that the early settlers were really just aliens stubbornly refusing to adopt the language and culture of the nation they had entered.

ROBIN SINGER

Atlanta

Afterthought: It goes without saying that one of the things I'm thankful for this Thanksgiving season is illegal immigrants. Take that Lou Dobbs!

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Thanksgiving and Immigration
Close the border, and pass the mashed potatoes....

You see how well the open

You see how well the open border policy worked out for them don't you? If we don't do something we may follow in their footsteps, and yes, I (and a great many others)would consider that a bad thing.

I live just 45 miles north

I live just 45 miles north of the US-Mexico border. United States Border Patrol, Customs, DEA, and other related agencies have done more to endanger my life and property and violate the rights of folks I know than any of the illegal immigrants who I've encountered.

Last Christmas Eve as I was driving home, a group of border-crossers was running across the road ahead of me. One straggler stopped because I was getting close. I stopped and waved him across, and he waved back and smiled. I thought what a pathetic situation this is that this is what it has come to in this country. The best we can offer him is allowing him to cross the street on a chilly desert evening and let him continue his dangerous trek to god-only-knows-what-and-where when he should have been able to just get in a car and ride 45 minutes up the highway.

Dave, "...we may follow in

Dave,

"...we may follow in their footsteps..."

Please don't tell me you mean that seriously. You really wish to draw a serious and earnest parallel between the fractured tribes of pre-colonial North America, and the richest and most powerful hegemon on the globe? In the words of Jimmy, "I mean, come on." If you can't tell the difference between poor Mexicans immigrating here to fill the shlep job openings, and throngs of Europeans showing up on the continent, declaring it all theirs, and subsequently slaughtering all the "heathens" as they took their land and destroyed their culture, then, well, I daresay that your discourse is rooted in absurdity.

Um, Dave, doesn't that mean

Um, Dave, doesn't that mean we should stop being hypocrites and let the remaining Native Americans deport us and seal their borders?

I hate to say it, but

I hate to say it, but drawing parallels between immigration and colonization is a bad idea for pro-immigrationists (such as myself). Colonization is essentially an invasion - which is exactly what anti-immigrationists (wrongly) think immigration is. We should be *contrasting* the Mayflower et seq with the Mexicans, not comparing them.

A better comparison would be the immigration of Chinese, Italians, Jews, Irish, etc. into an America already completely claimed by "Americans".

Not that that helps, mind you. Anti-immigrationists have ready responses for why that was different from now. Man... the better I understand the case for immigration, the less I understand the mindset of those opposed to it. I guess that speaks poorly of me, though.

Eddie, I think the

Eddie, I think the comparison works, at least on some level, because these same anti-immigrant people see little wrong with our nation's previous colonization - so much so, in fact, that they believe our ancestor's prior illegitimate taking gives us the right to exclude contemporary immigrants. That's hypocrisy on multiple levels.

:furious: What is wrong

:furious: What is wrong with you people? Can't you see that open borders just make it possible for dirty bombs and other terrorist scenarios to enter this country easily and unknown? What are you gonna say when a few hundred thousand Americans go up in smoke when a nuclear bomb goes off in a major city? I mean, give me a break comparing this to what we did to the Native Americans. Yes, that was a bad thing...a very bad thing, but THAT IS IN THE PAST! There is no "fixing" what was done. GET OVER IT AND MOVE ON TO THE PRESENT DAY! You bleeding hearts make me sick to my stomach. This country is in a downward sprial, and open borders only make it worse. We still have to be "granted" acceptance to enter Mexico and/or Canada, so why should it be different just the opposite? Please people, GET A FUCKING CLUE! It's not about racism, it's about National Security!

http://www.newsmax.com/archiv

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/11/20/151654.shtml

Can’t you see that open

Can’t you see that open borders just make it possible for dirty bombs and other terrorist scenarios to enter this country easily and unknown?

Of course this reasoning is spurious if it's government foreign policy that caused the terrorism in the first place...

We still have to be “granted” acceptance to enter Mexico and/or Canada, so why should it be different just the opposite?

Because neither you nor the Mexican authorities have the right to control the movement of peaceful travelers moving across unclaimed land.

It’s not about racism, it’s about National Security!

Even if that's the case (which I doubt based on my own experience), you'd still have to justify why NS is so important it lets you shoot and threaten farm-workers trying to find work.

Well, Infidel, if people who

Well, Infidel, if people who simply wanted to work in the US could legally pass through border checkpoints, the Border Patrol could spend more of its time actually protecting the border against terrorists carrying nukes...

the Border Patrol could

the Border Patrol could spend more of its time actually protecting the border against terrorists carrying nukes…

Which they'd probably still be laughably inept at, anyway.