If you don\'t contribute, you can\'t complain

I think it's time for a new mantra for us non-voters to use against voters who discount our opinions with the tired adage, "If you don't vote, you can't complain."

Next time someone complains about the US waging war on the rest of the world, ask them what they've done to support the people suffering in Iraq and Afghanistan. Have they sent money, blankets, food? Do they volunteer for an aid organization? Have they sent care packages to soldiers? No? Then shut the f*ck up.

How about the assholes who voted to tax me to support a particular line of research that may or may not result in any benefit? I get to pay the 3 billion dollars in *interest* right beside them. And who suffers if it turns out to be a dead end? All of us. Don't directly support an organization that's fighting for a cure to the diseases you *think* stem cell research will help? Then shut the f*ck up.

Me, about all I can complain about are homeless domesticated animals, unemployed handicapped people, and bad copyright laws, because the only organizations I support with any regularity are the Humane Society, Goodwill (doesn't everyone?) and 2600 magazine. Well, I guess there's this blog, too.

Maybe instead of getting out the vote, you should be getting off your butt and getting out your wallet.

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While you are quite angry,

While you are quite angry, you do raise a great issue as to why in a democratic society one group can usurp the property of another just becasue they vote. Is voting legalized stealing?

So long as there is even one

So long as there is even one person who is made to give up his property against his will, yes, it is stealing.

When a gorgeous Scandinavian drops several ounces of gold at my feet one dark night to repay me for what's been stolen from me (what are the odds, lol), I may well redistribute the money to causes I would rather support. Or I could blow it all on chocolate-covered cherries in brandy.

Speedwell- With how many

Speedwell-

With how many people do you think the above argument will resonate?

A libertarian saying "taxation is stealing(theft)" means about as much to Joe Blow as a socialist saying "property is theft". To the average american, they're both non-sequiters. Call it what you will, but the average american thinks "theft is theft."

I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying that if one wants to convince the convincible non-libertarian (crypto-libertarian?) american, a better slogan/tactic is needed.

I perhaps sounded angrier in

I perhaps sounded angrier in the post than I'd really intended, but when a voter simply cuts off the conversation just because you didn't vote, that pisses me off. Especially when they don't do anything to contribute to the causes they're voting for.

As for the stem cell research bond issue in California, yes, I'm pissed about that. However, from talking to people, it appears the main thought in their head when they were voting for it was simply "stem cell research good." Very few people recognized it for the corporate welfare it is. However, when I point out that it's corporate welfare and that private foundations are better suited to funding research because they have an incentive to pick non-dead-end research tracks, they usually reply "Oh, I hadn't thought of that!"

What pisses me off even more about this initiative is that it was a rich dad trying to help his sick son by encouraging people to steal from both their neighbors and their children so that his child might be cured. I have no idea whether this guy has contributed directly to any foundations, but either way shame on him.

Next time someone complains

Next time someone complains about the US waging war on the rest of the world, ask them what they’ve done to support the people suffering in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Give me back my money that was spent on the war and I'll tell you.

I totally agree with you,

I totally agree with you, Sean. If the leftists put half as much energy into actually addressing problems on the ground and creating their alternative communities, they'd be orders of magnitude closer to their goals than they are today. I don't know why, for the earnest ones, they're so bent on getting control of the state apparati of coercion when they have the means to implement their agendas voluntarily, now.

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Wallet? Money? The

Wallet? Money?

The government already took my frickin' money. Now they say that they want more!

I'll donate some when they stop dumping it down the toilet.

Wallet? Money? The

Wallet? Money?

The government already took my frickin’ money. Now they say that they want more!

I’ll donate some when they stop dumping it down the toilet.

I never suggested that anyone give money to the government. However, your comment is an excellent example of how taxes discourage charity.