Pirates and Emperors

Are really just the same, suggests this animated short, which buttresses the thesis of Micha's upcoming paper with funny images and a catchy song. While I think it was meant to be leftist, it comes off as being extraordinarily libertarian, as you can see from the opening:

NARRATOR: Story begins, you know, with old St. Augustine.
Way back in days of old he reported on this theme:
A mighty emperor had caught himself a pirate who
Was a-terrorizin' people who were sailin' on the open seas.

ALEXANDER THE GREAT: What meanest thou by keeping hostile possession of the sea?

PIRATE: What meanest thou by seizing the whole earth; because I do it with a petty ship, I'm called a robber, whilst thou who dost the same with a great fleet art styled emperor.

Speaking of short films, check out Fellowship 9/11, which asks - what if Michael Moore did a "searing examination of the Aragorn administration's actions in the wake of the tragic events at Helms Deep." Featuring Rep. Grima Wormtongue and some interesting connections between the Aragorn Administration and Sauron. While the belittling of all anti-war arguments goes a bit far for me, its still quite funny as a sendup of Moore and the most far-out conspiracy theories.

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I think the Pirates &

I think the Pirates & Emperors thing completely blew its point with the way it portrayed the Sandinistas. Their use of violence with just as attrocious as the Contras, and if anything was exercised on a far larger scale. While it can be argued the US shouldn't have gotten involved in a Nicaraguan civil-war, protraying the Sandinistas as a popular government is just irresponsibles.

Of course, the angelicizing of brutal marxist regimes is common among certain quarters, but it makes it hard to accept the director's motives as principled non-interventionist and not the knee-jerk anti-Americanism that often accompanies such views.

I agree. The cartoon image

I agree. The cartoon image of the "indigenous" sawing down the "mine" pole of the US was offensive in its complete whitewash of history. The Sandinista revolution/movement were not a counter-imperial reaction to the US (though I imagine somewhere in the fever swamps of paleocons or lefties you can find attempts as such a justification).

When you're trying to say that there isn't a difference between small scale brutality and state brutality, one ought not commit the exact same fallacy/sin when talking about the brutal Sandinistas (who disappeared political opponents, massacred native tribes, supported leftist terror in El Salvador, 'nationalized' industries to line their pockets, etc). Though I suppose for them, you gotta break a few eggs to make the New Socialist Omlette, so the Sandinista terror/murder/theft was OK because they're "for the people", but the Contras are bad and evil because "they're for the Imperialists." Gag.

And never you mind the fact that the Sandinistas were themselves an imperial client-state of the Soviet Union... don't look behind the curtain, no...

While I agree that

While I agree that whitewashing murderous communist regimes is a bad thing, I don't see why the impurity of the director's motives ruins the piece. It still had an excellent message, one which libertarians trumpet (the state is just a glorified band of robbers), portrayed with a catchy tune.

If someone makes an argument

If someone makes an argument along the lines of:

If A, then B
A
Therefore B

It ruins the argument if their proof of A is a load of crap, even if you happen to agree with the "If A, then B" part.

While I think it was meant

While I think it was meant to be leftist....

Whatever gave you that idea, Patri? Was it the straight launch, after the intro, into really moldy commie propaganda regarding Nicaragua? Might that have possibly been it?

Equivalence fallacies really disgust me, and they ought to disgust you too.

The Marxist Sandinistas can wipe out all of the Miskitos, IslamoNazi theofascists have managed to flood-fill a fourth of the aerobe globe, paleo-Stalinist Saddam Hussein can butcher an average of sixty-thousand people a year (only 60k!...what a lightweight) -- but, since George Bush inherited an IRS that soaks your hide, I get to endure listening to this kind of reprehensible, witless *rubbish* on nearly every allegedly "libertarian" board every second of the day.

Justice would involve every one of you waking up, for at least one day of your pompous lives, with your conscience inside the wrong body -- some poor schleb stuck in one of Saddam's over-stuffed prisons during "overcrowding rectification day".

The French, btw, flipped Washington a groat or two, sweated out of Old Country peasantry I imagine, so I gather y'all should just shut up and beg the King back in since all it takes is an ounce of tainted funding in a whole American Revolution to render everyone involved a hypocritical "pirate" or would-be "emperor". That is, after all, the way the ambiguous-collective fallacies you engage in end up keeping you enslaved.

The trouble with libertarians these days is they're no longer (were they ever?) interested in liberty enough to do anything other than talk about it. Thus, liberty, as always, occurs seemingly at random at the behest of less-than-perfect men of action who, from the perspective of perfectionists, don't know what they're doing.

-- Given that the government has ripped you off, wouldn't you rather see it "accidently" do something good with the loot (such as, say, liberate a people) rather than deliberately do something bad with it (like fund stupid/evil-people care & breeding programs here at home in order to maintain and expand its base of support)?