California takes hands-off approach to homeschoolers

The new state superindendent Jack O'Connell asked for a review of the prior superindendent Delaine Eastin's policy that essentially made homeschooling illegal in California [via Joanne Jacobs].

State officials are now in the process of revising legal and informational documents to remove references regarding the illegality of homeschooling.

While the law hasn't changed, the state's interpretation is now just more hands off, said Michael Hersher, the Department of Education's deputy general counsel.

I hope this is becomes a trend.

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most folks I have spoken

most folks I have spoken with who have experience with home schooling gave very positive feedback. My concern is for those teenagers (primarily hispanic) who are "home schooled" but really working on the farm, odd jobs, etc.

What role and/or obligation, if any, does the government have to these kids?

What would you have the govt

What would you have the govt do if it finds hispanic teenagers working on the farm?

Even though I do not believe

Even though I do not believe in big government, I do believe the government must provide and require basic schooling for all citizens/legal residents until the age of 18 or a high school diploma. These guys will not work 12 hour days for $5/hour for long. Eventually they will turn to crime and then we all lose.

I think if underage teenagers (of any race) are found working instead of studying, the parents should be arrested. Just my $0.02

What if the parents truly

What if the parents truly believe that working and learning a trade provides their child with a better education than schooling?

That's a big "What if?"

That's a big "What if?" Most of the families are doing it for the money because they are poor and they are sacrificing their children's long-term prosperity for short-term gains.

I used to travel to Vandenburg AFB on a regular basis. I had to be on the base by 6 AM. Every morning I would see many young (i.e. < 18 yr old) men picked up by a white van outside my hotel. After work, I would usually catch a movie and dinner somewhere. On my way home, the men picked up in the morning were dropped off. These guys were making $50-100/day and working 6-7 days a week.

I'm sure you can make the argument that many of these guys were illegal immigrants and shouldn't be here in the first place. But the reality is that they are here, they aren't going away, and their kids are getting more and more involved in crime.

Robbing a 7-11 or selling drugs gives them 3-4 times the money at half the effort. Eventually we are going to pay the price.

I don't think we should slur

I don't think we should slur immigrants by saying that they (necessarily) have such a deficit in morals that all (or even a considerable portion) will resort to violence because it's the easier way to go. I don't think there are statistics to back up that claim, and in any case "because its easier to steal" is no argument at all for social spending, only an argument of moral rot in the person subcribing to that mentality.

A couple of thoughts: 1)I

A couple of thoughts:

1)I think we can all agree that people being educated is a Good Thing. However, parents being able to freely choose the method of education for their children is even more important to me. Also, it is generally assumed in today's society that education = schooling. I don't necessarily think that is the case. I think that in many instances schooling has an un-educating effect. Parents being able to choose what constitutes the best method of educating their kids is also very important to me.

2)The age cutoff for when children can make choices for themselves (16-18 depending on the state) about their education is too high.

3)I do not necessarily believe that poor people automatically turn to crime. If selling drugs is a high profit business, steps can be taken to make it a low profit business.

4)You believe that people who work jobs instead of going to school become criminals. And your solution is to make them (or their parents by proxy) criminals pre-emtively. Isn't that a contradiction?

5)Forcing them into a school has negative side-effects for the kids in school that actually are there to learn. School becomes a day-care center, or even a juvenile penitentiary, instead of a place of learning.A couple of thoughts:

1)I think we can all agree that people being educated is a Good Thing. However, parents being able to freely choose the method of education for their children is even more important to me. Also, it is generally assumed in today's society that education = schooling. I don't necessarily think that is the case. I think that in many instances schooling has an un-educating effect.

2)The age cutoff for when children can make choices for themselves (16-18 depending on the state) about their education is too high.

3)I do not necessarily believe that poor people automatically turn to crime. If selling drugs is a high profit business, steps can be taken to make it a low profit business.

4)You believe that people who work jobs instead of going to school become criminals. And your solution is to make them (or their parents by proxy) criminals pre-emtively. Isn't that a contradiction?

5)Forcing them into a school has negative side-effects for the kids in school that actually are there to learn. School becomes a day-care center, or even a juvenile penitentiary, instead of a place of learning.

oops- don't know how that

oops- don't know how that happened

yes, education is a good

yes, education is a good thing and it is important for parents to have the ability to choose how their children learn. I have no problem with parents that take an interest and provide a future for their kids, homeschooling or otherwise.

However, I do have a problem with parents that prevent and/or do not care if their children go to school. They are fostering an environment in which their children will have little to no options for a career.

I don't think we need a Government Study to tell us that folks that can't read and write have trouble getting jobs. I propose the following sequence of events:

Illiterate->No job->Lots of time with no money->Opportunity to get involved in criminal activity.

I'm guessing anyone who is reading this actually had parents that gave a damn when we were growing up. Even if it was just signing our report cards. Unfortunately not all parents are like that, and those that don't produce children that cause a disportionate amount of the problems in our society.

My bottom line: The government does have a responsibility to protect and educate children until they become adults. After that, they are on their own!

ps. no intention to slur immigrants. I was just relaying my personal experience.