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Secession week continues
Submitted by Jonathan Wilde on Thu, 2009-07-02 18:28.Over at A Thousand Nations, secession week continues.
Seasteading, Tiebout, and Federalism: Seasteading FTW by Patri Friedman
Federalism, Secession, and Free Trade by Will Chamberlain
Foundations of Federalism: Experimentation and Value Pluralism by Mike Gibson
Think tanks and activist organizations are complementary
Submitted by Patri Friedman on Thu, 2009-07-02 18:06.From an email I received from an FSP participant:
David Boaz just spoke at Dartmouth and had this response to a question about the FSP:"My own attitude towards the Free State Project is that the federal government should move to New Hampshire and leave the rest of us free,” Boaz joked."
He just blew an easy opportunity to say something nice about a fellow libertarian organization.
(Boaz is the president of Cato).
This attitude is silly. Yes, national reform would be way better. It would also be way better if I shat gold bricks instead of poop and the Miss America Pageant included a category on sexual prowess with me as the judge. The FSP's goal may be far more modest, but at least their goal is not a fantasy and their methods have at least some chance of working.
Policy think-tanks have a valuable role in helping libertarians signal affiliation, showing how flawed the current system is, and generally building culture and momentum. But that diffuse culture and momentum have to be eventually concentrated so that our small movement can have real impact. Projects like the FSP and seasteading are examples of concentrated efforts.
I'm glad that Cato helped promote seasteading, and I wish they would work with and promote the FSP. The apparent attitude that the FSP is a quaint provincial group makes no sense given the strategic landscape for libertarianism. Only such groups have a chance at radically increasing liberty, and that is (or should be) Cato's ultimate goal.
Consequences
Submitted by Jonathan Wilde on Thu, 2009-07-02 17:34.California is going to issue IOUs because it can't pay its bills.
Its budget gap growing and its political process for addressing the gap unhinged, California will begin Thursday to pay vendors and taxpayers with i.o.u.’s, only the second time the state has adopted the emergency payment method since the Great Depression.
By Thursday afternoon, state officials said, 28,742 warrants worth $53.3 million will be printed and readied for distribution. If the state’s fiscal crisis – which has left California unable to pay all of its bills – continues without a budget settlement, it would issue as much as $3.36 billion for the month of July.
In addition, state workers have been ordered to stay home during some workdays.
In the meantime, Mr. Schwarzenegger, a Republican, has ordered state workers to take a third furlough day each month, beginning next Friday, to help stave off a further cash crisis in the state.
It's refreshing to see a government actually have to balance its books. They have to cut back on expenses because they don't have enough to pay for them, just as families and corporations do. Similar stories have been published about other states. They have to deal with the consequences of an extravagant lifestyle.
This is probably a stupid question, but why does the state government have to balance its books each year, whereas the federal government can accrue massive debts every year? Why do we not hear, "Well, this year Federal workers will have to take a month off without pay because the USG has already spent the money it had?" I'm guessing it's because the federal government can print money.
Speaking of creating jobs
Submitted by Jonathan Wilde on Wed, 2009-07-01 18:46.President Barack Obama had promised that the stimulus plan would save or create 3.5 million jobs. Republicans have criticized the plan and the reliability of the administration's numbers.
The latest Wall Street Journal/NBC poll suggests growing public doubts, with 39% of those surveyed saying the stimulus is a "bad idea," up from 27% in January.
Meanwhile, some state officials worried about how they were supposed to count jobs credited to the stimulus. Now, the White House Office of Management and Budget has given states guidance calming these concerns.
"All we're asking them to do is a simple headcount; tell us how many people you hired," said Rob Nabors, the deputy director of the office, in an interview.
Recipients won't be asked to grapple with complicated estimates, he added. Instead, they may use their best guess whether a job would have been created or saved in the absence of a recovery plan, and to not count it if they are uncertain.
I'm left speechless, so I won't comment further.
Secession Week posts for today
Submitted by Jonathan Wilde on Wed, 2009-07-01 15:14.Over at Let a Thousand Nations Bloom (which you should add to your newsreaders if you haven't already), we continue with Secession Week.
Secession vs Revolution roundup by Patri Friedman
Revolution vs Secession by Jonathan Wilde
Bloodless Instability by Will Chamberlain
Isn't it ironic?
Submitted by Jonathan Wilde on Wed, 2009-07-01 02:52.Deepak Chopra thinks Hollywood doctors have gone too far.
Chopra spoke of a "huge problem" Hollywood had with "celebrity doctors who not only initiate people into the drug experience but then they perpetuate it so that people become dependent on them."
As opposed to initiating them into pseudoscience and quackery.
Classical Feminism
Submitted by Brandon Berg on Wed, 2009-07-01 00:51.I've always believed that classical feminism was different from modern feminism, in that classical feminists were fighting against genuine violations of women's rights, whereas modern feminism consists primarily of overhyping sexism and trying to secure new legal privileges for women. I stand corrected:
On Mount Cyllene in the Peloponnese, as Tiresias came upon a pair of copulating snakes, he hit the pair a smart blow with his stick. Hera was not pleased, and she punished Tiresias by transforming him into a woman....After seven years as a woman, Tiresias again found mating snakes; depending on the myth, either she made sure to leave the snakes alone this time, or, according to Hyginus, trampled on them. As a result, Tiresias was released from his sentence and permitted to regain his masculinity....
In a separate episode, Tiresias was drawn into an argument between Hera and her husband Zeus, on the theme of who has more pleasure in sex: the man, as Hera claimed; or, as Zeus claimed, the woman, as Tiresias had experienced both. Tiresias replied "Of ten parts a man enjoys one only." Hera instantly struck him blind for his impiety.
Treating as axiomatic the idea that women get the short end of every stick (no pun intended)? Check. Refusal to accept evidence contradicting her preconceived notions? Check. Flying into a blind rage at someone who dares to disagree with her? Check. It turns out that "modern" feminism goes back a lot further than I ever suspected.
Your Patriotic Duty
Submitted by Brandon Berg on Tue, 2009-06-30 21:34.I hoped it wouldn't come to this, but in light of recent events, I think it's time:
1. Choose a politician who has made transparently idiotic promises to create jobs.
2. On one side of a piece of paper, print Bastiat's Parable of the Broken Window. On the other side, reproduce documentation of the politician's commission of this fallacy.
3. Tie this piece of paper to a brick and throw it through the politician's window.
Free Jobs for Everyone!
Submitted by Jonathan Wilde on Tue, 2009-06-30 20:39.It seems that every new program Obama wants to enact comes with the promise of new jobs.
Health care reform will create new jobs!
Green energy will create new jobs!
The economic stimulus bill will create new jobs!
It doesn't make sense that government programs would be required to create new jobs. If there's untapped demand in the economy, then the private economy is the best way to respond to that demand and create new jobs. Exceptions might include genuine public goods, but none of the things Obama talks about are public goods.
For example, exactly how will green energy initiatives create new jobs? Presumably, taxes will fund such initiatives. Taxes hamper economic growth and leave less money from which to pay employees. Perhaps there will be subsidies for green companies. All this does is divert business from non-green companies to green ones, at best a net push with respect to jobs.
If there was a demand for green energy, there would already be jobs being created in that industry. It may be that though green energy harms the economy, it's necessary and vital for other reasons, but it shouldn't be sold on the idea that it creates jobs.
It's like in a movie when the victims are completely oblivious to the killer walking up loudly behind them
Submitted by Randall McElroy iii on Tue, 2009-06-30 18:47.Clusterstock brings to my attention Matthew Yglesias's announcement that, in a situation parallel to the Bootleggers and Baptists case, Wal-Mart and the Center for American Progress have reached an agreement supporting a law that obligates employers to pay for their employees' health care. Yglesias writes:
The highly ideological behavior of the business community, and high degree of class solidarity exhibited by the executive class, has been a hugely important element of the story of American politics over the past thirty years or so. The willingness of much of the business community to break with Chamber ideology on Waxman-Markey and now on health care is an important sign of change in the air.
Pardon me, but LMFAO!!!1
Does anyone think Wal-Mart executives really had a change of heart? It boggles my mind to realize that some people who've been criticizing Wal-Mart as conniving and underhanded now think they've repented. Really? Wal-Mart executives are having a roaring good laugh about this.
Not to mention that bit about "change in the air". Obama really is one of the greats in the art of deception.
If anyone is new around here, it breaks down like this: the Center for American Progress supports this because they think it will make health care more available to employees. Wal-Mart supports this legislation because, if passed, it would make things harder for smaller business that might become competitors, businesses that have less money and less weight to throw around than Wal-Mart. This giant company gets to appear progressive, garnering good will, and screw smaller competitors (current and possible) at the same time! Naïve organizations get surprised by this and demand new controls next time around, but the affected industries co-opt their plans again.
Side note, from Clusterstock:
The other problem: Employer-based health insurance sucks! It's terrible for worker mobility, creating economic stagnation by locking employees into their jobs, while discouraging workers from startups and other small businesses that don't have the scale to buy healthcare in the beginning. Even Obama's said he doesn't think the scheme -- which was developed as a way to get around WWII price controls -- makes a lot of sense.
Secession Week Blogging Begins!
Submitted by Patri Friedman on Mon, 2009-06-29 14:59.Spread the word, join the fun, send us more links, and plz upvote on the Libertarian Reddit
"Randy" likes Distributed Republic
Submitted by Mark on Mon, 2009-06-29 09:01.Though we don't do scheduled TV, my family has been a fan of "My Name is Earl" for the last several years. We watch the episodes at the Official NBC Show Site.
The show is about a bunch of redneck scofflaws. The main character, Earl, is on a mission to right all the wrongs of his past. Ethan Suplee plays "Randy", his little brother sidekick. Randy gets to deliver great lines--after a guest character returns from a "cavity search" at a government building security checkpoint, he asks, "Did they find any? Or have you been brushing real good?"
I ran across Ethan Suplee's blog a while ago and found out he was a fan of Thomas Jefferson, Gerald Celente, and Ron Paul. I left a comment on his site pointing him at Stefan Molyneux's great "Matrix" video. Ethan not only liked that, but also said he liked the link to Distributed Republic that was attached to my name.
Now, if we could just get him to introduce us to Nadine Velazquez from the show! Here she is in character as the illegal immigrant Catalina...
Military Coup in Honduras?
Submitted by Don Lloyd on Sun, 2009-06-28 11:56.Manuel Zelaya, President of Honduras, and a Hugo Chavez wanna-be, has apparently been overthrown in a bloodless military coup in Honduras. This is apparently in response to his attempts to co-op the military in his unconstitutional attempt to hold on to power despite term limits.
Although Obama is likely to disagree, this has all the earmarks of a major improvement in the living conditions in Honduras. I would have voted if the choice was threeway: Obama/McCain/MC.
Regards, Don
The Big Kid
Submitted by Jonathan Wilde on Fri, 2009-06-26 12:25.Jacob Weisberg expresses the same reasons I didn't think he was a pedophile: he just seemed like a big kid. Every bizarre thing he did as an adult can be explained by giving him the mind of an 11 year old.
People tend to throw up hands at Michael Jackson's multifarious bizarreness. But is it really so strange? The boy was forced to work by a cruel and physically abusive father starting at the age of 7. (If he'd been sent into a factory or coal mine, instead of onstage, we'd have more compassion for him.) As a boy, he was denied what even most abused and underprivileged children have: school, friends, and play.
Instead, Michael was made into a performing sexualized freak, a boy whose soprano voice kindled passion in grown women. He was made to witness adult sexuality at an age when it can only have been terrifying and incomprehensible to him. By 10, he was performing in strip clubs and hiding under the covers in hotel rooms while his older brothers got it on with groupies. At 11—the age at which his psyche seems frozen—he was a superstar. "My childhood was completely taken away from me," he has said. Almost everything that seems freakish about him can be explained by his poignant, doomed effort to get his stolen childhood back.
They come in threes?
Submitted by Jonathan Wilde on Thu, 2009-06-25 16:52.Wow - Farah Fawcett and Michael Jackson on the same day. Nobody did the moonwalk like MJ.
Edit: CNN still not confirming death of MJ. In addition to TMZ, a few places on Twitter saying he's dead.
Edit at 6:21: CNN now saying he's "in a coma".
Edit at 6:28: CNN now saying CBS and LA Times saying he's dead.
Thriller defined the generation during which I learned to love music. For a solid two years, it was pretty much all my buddies and I listened to.
Secession Week Blogging Event
Submitted by Patri Friedman on Thu, 2009-06-25 15:16.Since July 4th is Secession Day, next week is Secession Week, so A Thousand Nations is going to post links to secession-related blogging all week along.
You can participate by blogging about secession and emailing us a link at athousandnationsbloom@gmail.com.
Viva Argentina
Submitted by Randall McElroy iii on Wed, 2009-06-24 19:10.Word around the campfire is that South Carolina Governor Mark Sanford was missing for a few days...having an affair with an Argentine woman. Alls I have to say is that if you're going to have an affair, you might as well pick the country with the most beautiful women in the world.
Recipe for disaster, again
Submitted by Randall McElroy iii on Wed, 2009-06-24 18:30.The financial blog Clusterstock discusses Martin Wolf's latest piece in the Financial Times. The money quote:
At the heart of the financial industry are highly leveraged businesses. Their central activity is creating and trading assets of uncertain value, while their liabilities are, as we have been reminded, guaranteed by the state. This is a licence to gamble with taxpayers’ money. The mystery is that crises erupt so rarely.
In what way can these meaningfully be called private business when their liabilities are shielded from market conditions by the most anti-market of institutions? As he says, the crisis is not the surprise.
Americanese
Submitted by Jonathan Wilde on Tue, 2009-06-23 23:56.I was just watching an old Scrubs episode and while watching a soap opera during her lunch break, the nurse said to J.D., "Can't you see I'm watching my stories?" I've heard "my stories" used a few times now referring to soap operas. Has anyone else heard this phrase used?
(Edit: Coincidentally, I just heard Sock on Reaper refer to One Life To Live as "my stories".)
My friend from Jersey laughed at me when I told him I needed new tennis shoes. He says "tennis shoes" must be a Southern thing because he's only ever heard them called "sneakers". A bit of research (which I can no longer find) revealed that "sneakers" is limited to the Northeast down to DC, whereas "tennis shoes" dominates the rest of the country.
Verghese: Spend Less Money!
Submitted by Jonathan Wilde on Tue, 2009-06-23 16:27.Abraham Verghese says that preventative medicine won't necessarily limit health care costs, something which I also argued previously.
My wife tried to tell me the other day that she had just ‘saved’ us money by buying on sale a couple of things for which we have no earthly use. She then proceeded to tote up all our ‘savings’ from said purchases and gave me a figure that represented the money we had generated, which we could now spend . . .she had me going for a minute.
I mention this because I have similar problems with the way President Obama hopes to pay for the huge and costly health reform package he has in mind that will cover all Americans; he is counting on the “savings” that will come as a result of investing in preventive care and investing in the electronic medical record among other things. It’s a dangerous and probably an incorrect projection.
Prevention of a disease, we all assume, should save us money, right? An ounce of prevention . . . ? Alas, If only such aphorisms were true we’d hand out apples each day and our problems would be over.
It is true that if the prevention strategies we are talking about are behavioral things—eat better, lose weight, exercise more, smoke less, wear a seat belt—then they cost very little and they do save money by keeping people healthy.
But if your preventive strategy is medical, if it involves us, if it consists of screening, finding medical conditions early, shaking the bushes for high cholesterols, or abnormal EKGs, markers for prostate cancer such as PSA, then more often than not you don’t save anything and you might generate more medical costs. Prevention is a good thing to do, but why equate it with saving money when it won’t? Think about this: discovering high cholesterol in a person who is feeling well, is really just discovering a risk factor and not a disease; it predicts that you have a greater chance of having a heart attack than someone with a normal cholesterol. Now you can reduce the probability of a heart attack by swallowing a statin, and it will make good sense for you personally, especially if you have other risk factors (male sex, smoking etc).. But if you are treating a population, keep in mind that you may have to treat several hundred people to prevent one heart attack. Using a statin costs about $150,000 for every year of life it saves in men, and even more in women (since their heart-attack risk is lower)—I don’t see the savings there.
Or take the coronary calcium scans or heart scan, which most authorities suggest is not a test to be done on people who have no symptoms, and which I think of as the equivalent of the miracle glow-in-the-dark minnow lure advertised on late night infommercials. It’s a money maker, without any doubt, and some institutions actually advertise on billboards or in newspapers, luring you in for this ‘cheap’ and ‘painless’ way to get a look at your coronary arteries. If you take the test and find you have no calcium on your coronaries, you have learned that . . . you have no calcium on your coronaries. If they do find calcium on your coronaries, then my friend, you have just bought yourself some major worry. You will want to know, What does this mean? Are my coronary arteries narrowed to a trickle? Am I about to die? Is it nothing? Asking such questions almost inevitably leads to more tests: a stress test, an echocardiogram, a stress echo, a cardiac catheterization, stents and even cardiac bypass operations—all because you opted for a ‘cheap’ and ‘painless’ test—if only you’d never seen that billboard.
Coronary artery calcium scans are the perfect example of the ambiguity of "preventative medicine". Other than at the margins of results, nobody really knows what they mean. Yet, health care consumers want them.
Verghese's solution to health care costs? Spend less money!
Which brings me to my problem with the president’s plan: despite being an admirer, I just don’t see how the president can pull off the reform he has in mind without cost cutting. I recently came on a phrase in an article in the journal “Annals of Internal Medicine” about an axiom of medical economics: a dollar spent on medical care is a dollar of income for someone. I have been reciting this as a mantra ever since. It may be the single most important fact about health care in America that you or I need to know. It means that all of us—doctors, hospitals, pharmacists, drug companies, nurses, home health agencies, and so many others—are drinking at the same trough which happens to hold $2.1 trillion, or 16% of our GDP. Every group who feeds at this trough has its lobbyists and has made contributions to Congressional campaigns to try to keep their spot and their share of the grub. Why not?—it’s hog heaven. But reform cannot happen without cutting costs, without turning people away from the trough and having them eat less. If you do that, you have to be prepared for the buzz saw of protest that dissuaded Roosevelt, defeated Truman’s plan and scuttled Hillary Clinton’s proposal. The good news is that the AMA, representing perhaps 15% of active practicing physicians, is not as powerful as it was in Truman’s time, and in the eyes of the public and many in medicine, it’s identity in the reform debate, is that of a protectionist, self-serving, organization; as a result, even their most progressive statements are viewed with suspicion. I’ve found the views of the American Medical Student Association particularly exciting—the next generation of physicians I sense has a deeper commitment to affordable health care for all than ours; they are, simply put, better people.
Though I disagree with the proposed solution, at least Verghese is realistic. To save money you actually have to spend less money. That means fewer tests, imaging studies, procedures, and surgeries. So far, Americans have been sold on the idea that the way to save money is to be vigilant and prevent disease before it happens. As I've said before, I have little reason to believe this is a good strategy to lower costs. The only real way to save money is spend less of it.
Americans won't like this idea.
Doctor: "Bob, we could put a stent in your coronary artery, but there's no real proof that it helps over the long term."
Bob: "So you're saying we should do nothing? What about my clogged arteries?"
Doctor: "We should definitely do something. Specifically, we should eat less and exercise more. And by 'we', I mean 'you'."
Bob: "I want the stent."
My prediction: if and when Americans realize this, they will revolt against any health care reform plan like they've done every time it has been proposed over the past century.
Are civilians legitimate targets or aren't they?
Submitted by econoholic on Mon, 2009-06-22 15:45.Jonathan Wilde summarizes comments made by Bill Whittle that sum up the defense of Harry Truman's decision to drop the bomb:
- The US made some effort to warn the Japanese citizens about what was coming.
- Hiroshima and Nagasaki were, in some ways, military targets.
- Conventional bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki would have cost as many lives, if not more, than the atomic bombing.
- Dropping the bombs killed fewer people than not dropping them would have killed on both the American and Japanese side.
- The Japanese citizenry were probably not ready to surrender anytime soon before the bombs were dropped.
I have my own take on this issue that I don't want to share. However, I ask that you read these points and just try to evaluate the quality of the arguments made.
Ask, for example,
- Does it really matter whether a warning is made? Would a Japanese citizen have taken this seriously or even have the power to heed this warning?
- How can a city be "in some ways" a military target? Is Seattle a military target because Boeing still has facilities there?
- Let's say dropping the bomb actually saved lives. Do we want to set the precedent where this is an estimation that is made unilaterally by the country with the bomb? Can't this argument be used to justify pretty much any action in any war by countries other than the US?
- Assuming the Japanese were not willing to surrender anytime soon, did they present a clear, proximate threat to the United States?
Ok, maybe Whittle's defenses aren't the best available. This is a relatively intelligent blog though, right? We should have something better show up in the comments. Let's see.
1. Armchair judges, sipping their beverages, declaring "murder!" this and "murder!" that.
Econ: I understand that this is a fair criticism if the judge is missing some of the relevant details due to being on the armchair. What exactly is the detail that's missing in this case though? (Keep in mind that the decision itself was an armchair decision. It was made by a grown adult in Washington who had the time to think about his decision.)2. It is a terrible mistake- and unjust, to boot- to judge the actions of people in the past by the standards of the present.
Econ: How different were the standards in 1945? Was intentionally targeting civilians a permissible action?
I ask you: why are the arguments in defense of dropping the bomb so bad? Why are we all taught that it was something that we had to do and that there was no other choice when it seems that there clearly were? (I think I first got this indoctrination in 6th grade.)
More than that, why do we say with no uncertainty today that purposefully targeting civilians in unconditionally wrong when in fact there seems to be a glaring condition under which almost all Americans think it was the right thing to do? It seems like we either need to say targeting civilians is cool in some rare cases or that we goofed.
Stallworth vs Vick
Submitted by Jonathan Wilde on Fri, 2009-06-19 17:33.Donte Stallworth will receive a 30-day jail sentence for killing someone while driving drunk.
The relatively lenient sentence received Tuesday by Cleveland Browns wide receiver Donte' Stallworth — 30 days in jail, followed by two years of house arrest — after he pleaded guilty to DUI manslaughter for killing a pedestrian while driving drunk in Florida was made possible by his cooperation with authorities and the victim's family's wishes to move forward.
Stallworth, who had faced up to 15 years in jail, will also be on probation for eight years and must undergo drug and alcohol testing and perform 1,000 hours of community service. He will have a lifetime driver's license suspension, too.
"I accept full responsibility for this horrible tragedy," said Stallworth, accompanied at the hearing by his parents, siblings and other supporters. "I will bear this burden for the rest of my life."
Contrast his punishment with that of Michael Vick. Is there any doubt that something has gone astray in our notions of justice?
In my admittedly simplistic view of justice, law is a social contract to keep the peace between humans. Locking someone up is serious business. It's essentially barbaric in nature: instead of a human being able to walk freely, eat, make choices, and pursue the good life, we put him in a cage. Only someone who is a danger to other humans warrants such a barbaric punishment. Animals are not a party to this social contract.
Yet Stallworth's punishment pales in comparison to Vick's.
Related:
No Rights for Animals by Constant
We Are All (or Mostly) Mike Vick by C. J. Trillian (I have it on good authority that someone gave up meat after reading this post)
There is no distinction between law and morality.
Submitted by Constant on Thu, 2009-06-18 19:11.Google law morality. The first hit is this page, and the first line on the page is:
At first there seems to be no distinction between law and morality.
The rest of the page is an argument against this naive impression. The argument fails and the naive impression holds. Here is the summary and my comments.
(1) The existence of unjust laws (such as those enforcing slavery) proves that morality and law are not identical and do not coincide.
An alternative interpretation of the same facts is that there are two distinct systems of law, one here being called "law" and the other being called "morality". We should not be surprised if two systems of law are not identical.
(2) The existence of laws that serve to defend basic values--such as laws against murder, rape, malicious defamation of character, fraud, bribery, etc. --prove that the two can work together.
This does not argue for a distinction.
(3) Laws can state what overt offenses count as wrong and therefore punishable. Although law courts do not always ignore a person's intention or state of mind, the law cannot normally govern, at least not in a direct way, what is in your heart (your desires). Because often morality passes judgment on a person's intentions and character, it has a different scope than the law.
A difference in scope may distinguish two legal systems from each other. Aside from this, it is unclear whether there is any real distinction. The author admits that law does not always ignore intention.
(4) Laws govern conduct at least partly through fear of punishment. Morality, when it is internalized, when it has become habit-like or second nature, governs conduct without compulsion. The virtuous person does the appropriate thing because it is the fine or noble thing to do.
Law can be internalized. When we drive we automatically move to the appropriate side of the road, and generally obey the rules of the road, without (direct) compulsion. On the other side, while we develop a moral conscience which then governs us, observation of children makes it hard to deny that compulsion plays a role in the development of a conscience.
(5) Morality can influence the law in the sense that it can provide the reason for making whole groups of immoral actions illegal.
This does not argue for a distinction.
(6) Law can be a public expression of morality which codifies in a public way the basic principles of conduct which a society accepts. In that way it can guide the educators of the next generation by giving them a clear outline of the values society wants taught to its children.
This does not argue for a distinction.
Morality is not enforced by the state (except insofar as it coincides with the state's laws). It is a system of law that is characterized by non-state enforcement, generally social exclusion (including, for example, being fired) but also, on occasion, violence. It fits Webster's first definition of law:
a binding custom or practice of a community
There is, however, one commonly alleged distinction which never got mentioned, and that is that laws can change, but morality is unchanging. For example, it is immoral to keep slaves now, and (so people think) it always was immoral, even though no one realized it. But it was once legal, and is now illegal. There's your difference.
There are two concepts of morality in play now. Stanford explains the difference:
The term “morality” can be used either
1. descriptively to refer to a code of conduct put forward by a society or,
1a. some other group, such as a religion, or
1b. accepted by an individual for her own behavior or
2. normatively to refer to a code of conduct that, given specified conditions, would be put forward by all rational persons.
I've been talking about morality in sense (1), and "unchanging" morality is sense (2), though I think as written (2) is much too specific about the required characteristics of unchanging morality.
Of course, like morality, law also comes in two varieties - natural law is unchanging. So the important distinction isn't really between morality and law. It's between the changeable varieties and the unchangeable varieties.
Where nationalism and socialism really do meet
Submitted by Randall McElroy iii on Thu, 2009-06-18 15:56.William Easterly takes on the most deluded of all agencies connected with foreign development: the US military. After some choice quotes from the US Army Stability Operations Field Manual, he concludes,
The danger is that, if put into practice, such delusions create excessive ambition, which creates excessive use of military force, which kills real human beings, Afghans and Iraqis.
US Army and Defense Department thinkers – please go back to the drawing board. Think about American values that guide us at home. These values don’t include utopian social engineering, and certainly not by outside armies.
Western view on Iranian elections
Submitted by Arthur B. on Wed, 2009-06-17 09:12.Disclaimer: I don't know squat about Iranian politics. However my point isn't about Iran but about Western politics, which I know about.
I am under the impression that the Western support for Iranian protesters has nothing to do with defending democracy. It looks like the favorite was slightly more liberal than Ahmadinejad, and therefore he has more support in Occident, a good thing in my opinion.
However, if the more fundamentalist candidate had been defeated and the more liberal candidate had won, and if people had taken the street to contest the election, then no matter what the evidence for ballot fraud, I am sure that the press would be all over the violent anti-democratic protesters for being sore losers clinging to a past order. Similarly, if violent protests arose outside of the context of an election to oust the fundamentalist leader, the press would support them.
(This is only my intuition, but that doesn't mean it's not backed up, I just can't easily summon what backs it up)
What we're seeing now is that most people express outrage over voting fraud, but deep down, they're really outraged that a less liberal candidate is holding power. In a way this is very healthy, it's good that people care about Liberty and not Democracy. However, it'd be even healthier if they recognized democracy has nothing to do with it and left it out of the debate.